What if I’m Wrong?

First off, a blessed Holy Week to each of you!

Again, I want to thank Julie and Jessica for their insightful and honest input in this writing project. I know personally it has made me a better pastor and more importantly, a more faithful follower of Jesus Christ. Thank you!

The assignment for this round of entries was to look back on ourselves and our processes and ask, “Would you have done anything different if you did it again?” The answer is, “Of course!” It is impossible to go through a discernment process and not see how you could have alleviated some of the struggle, shortcut some of the hours spent, or taken advantage of some of the opportunities missed. I know in the case of SPC, in hindsight we could have had better communication with our congregation throughout the process itself. I am so impressed by Jessica and her church’s approach involving their entire church througout the process, as well as Julie and Eastern’s ability to have the entire university community take part in discussions during their discernment. As I look back now, our strategy was a little like Willy Wonka – lock yourself up in a Chocolate Factory for a few years until you come out with something to show to the world. While we did a good job at inviting our congregation into the conversation once we had done the hard work, I will admit we could have done a better job at bringing them along all along. That being said, once we started the public conversation, we had hundreds of our people involved in the conversations and, for the large majority, the feedback was that they felt heard and honored in the process. Thanks be to God.

In answer to one of Julie’s questions, I believe we did allow all types of evidence to have a hearing in our group work. In my estimation, we turned over pretty much every rock we could—how could you not in a 3 year process! We wanted to hear as many “voices” as we possibly could, and we certainly did. The key however, was the spirit of openness, learning and growth that the group had through the process. It helped to have an inquisitive group that was comfortable in their own skin and their ability to articulate their own growing vantage point in love.

But the big learning for me was what Julie suggested for both her experience at Eastern as well as her question for Jessica and I; we could have done a better job at engaging people in the LGBT community in our conversation as a group. The reality was that while each of us individually had our own experiences (which I will discuss in a moment), and while together we set about engaging them through articles and books, we never actually sat down with a member of the LGBT community in our group and heard their story. Why didn’t we do this? I’m not quite sure, but I wish we had, because while reading stories and discussing theological propositions work are helpful, there is nothing that can substitute for face to face relationships and conversation. As Julie said, “We do not know what we do not know because of the limitations of our experiences and perspectives.”

I know this to be true because for me, my epiphone came when I had the chance to meet with a married gay couple who had started to attend our church. They had come to SPC because they were followers of Jesus and felt like this was a place where they sensed Jesus was present and active (the kind of compliment every pastor loves to hear!).

But let me tell you a secret—I was nervous to meet with them, mostly because I had never actually met with a married gay couple and heard their story before. As we sat down at the local Starbucks, one of the men told me of his lifelong self-hatred because of his sexual orientation and his belief that God’s hatred for him matched his own. This was a man who had given up a decade of his life serving Christ by playing in a music ministry that traveled the globe–yet all the while living in despair and without much hope. And yet now, through many years of study, prayer and discernment, he had come to a place of peace that God loved him as he was, warts and all, and that even if this was not God’s original intention for mankind, it was God’s way of wholeness for him in the midst of his brokenness. Here was a man who was sincerely committed to the Scriptures and desired to live them out; who saw his fidelity to his husband as an extension of that devotion.

I must say, that conversation changed me. Let me be clear—it didn’t convince me of the Biblical/hermeneutical lens that my friend was using to arrive at his conclusion, but it changed me, nonetheless. I still had my questions, but as I left the Starbucks that day, a new question was germanating and sprouting with me—a question that has turned out to be a great help in my own coming-to-terms with our church’s decision to be more inclusive towards the LGBT community. The question is this…

Which way would I rather be wrong?

That question started ringing in my ears and it continues to this day. I realize this may appear to be an unorthodox way to do theology, but hear me out.

If we assume that none of us has the corner on the market on the total and complete understanding of the Scriptures (which we must assume with the wide variety of emphases and interpretations of the Book throughout the Christian world); and if we also assume that this particular issue of homosexuality is not a salvation issue but really an issue of discipleship (which I realize is not a universal belief but was a conclusion I had already come to in my own life), then I had to ask myself a deeper question: What if my viewpoint is wrong? If my stance is wrong, what does it cost me and, more importantly, what does it cost those who are on the other side?

As I thought this through, I came to some sobor conclusions. If I was right and my gay married friends were wrong, then they would not be living in the fullness of God’s design (like I fail to do in many parts of my life as well, I am sure). As their pastor then, I should admonish them to break up or at least remain celibate for the rest of their lives if they wanted to most faithfully follow Jesus Christ. This is a plausible conclusion and is widely accepted by many in the Christian world. It is the classic God’s will versus humanity’s will, the desire to live consistent with the text and tradition of Scripture versus adopting a new or popular cultural interpretation. Holding to this line may have been the right answer.

But then I started to get nervous…What if I’m wrong? What if, as a growing group of disciples in the Christian world believe, the few Scriptures concerning homosexuality aren’t really aimed at this current understanding of same gender marriage that is possible today? What if like gender issues and slavery (to name a few) our current context forces us to reinterpret our understanding of God’s Word on this issue? If that was the case, then I (as their pastor) would be robbing these followers of Jesus a chance to be in a covenanted relationship that they believed imaged the relationship of God and his church. I would be hamstringing these disciples of Jesus with a burden they shouldn’t have to bear (possibly like Paul’s admonition to the Galatian believers regarding the Gentiles and circumcision). Worst of all, if these disciples experienced this prohibition as my new friend had experienced it for decades—a rejection by the living God—then what if they went into eternity believing in that rejection? The words of Jesus, “Let the little children come to me and do not hinder them,” rung in my ears. What if I was keeping these children from God because I was so committed to my belief in what amounted to a non-essential doctrine that doesn’t affect one’s salvation?

It made me nervous.

With that in mind, I started to consider the very real question of which way I would rather be wrong. When I stand before God’s judgment seat someday, would I rather have God say, “You were way too open and accepting on this issue” or would I rather have him say, “Through your actions, some of my children, in their despair, never knew my love”?

In the end, I decided for myself that I’d rather error on the side of grace on this issue and be ok with an open posture of acceptance. I realize many of my beloved colleagues and friends find themselves on the other side. For them, this issue is much clearer and black in white. For me, however, through this process and through this conversation done in community, I am much less certain than I ever was before–mystery abounds–and ultimately I believe we made the hard right decision (even though I still have my questions). Jessica echoed my thoughts exactly at the end of her essay, “I think the fullest of what we are called to do as a community of Christ is to pour ourselves out on the behalf of others, to regard ourselves and our positions as less than our own. If each person could live in such a manner we would be able to exemplify an alternative to the polarized world we live in. This is the mission we are called to.”

Do we still have a long way to go at SPC? Of course. We haven’t even brushed the surface of other gender issues that continue to be explored. But one thing I am confident of–If we come at every conversaton with love and respect, we can accomplish what Julie so eloquently said at the end of her essay, “I am left wondering if Christianity might be more attractive to outsiders if we seemed more clearly like we were “figuring it out” rather than seeming to have “figured it out.”

Amen to that.

Response and Evaluation of Process

     In light of what you have learned from your experience at your institution and the approaches taken by the other two institutions, what refinements would you propose in the approach taken by your institution if you could do it all over again?

     I appreciate reading the case studies and responses from both Jeff Lincicome, Senior Pastor at Sammamish Presbyterian Church, and from Jessica Schrock Ringenberg, Pastor at Zion Mennonite Church. I have learned from both. While both pastors represent church communities, and Eastern is a university, there are some similarities and lessons to be learned.

What would I do if I could do it all again?

Let me start with some observations about the process.

     Both Jeff at and Jessica took approaches that were consistent within their cultures, i.e., their local communities of faith. Both were bold to engage in such difficult dialogue, especially since many churches have experienced splits in the community over the same issues. Theological dialogue about interpretation of scripture raises the stakes for communities of faith.

     What was it about these churches that allowed them to engage without splitting? I think one critical aspect was senior leadership. Both Jeff  (senior pastor) and Jessica (pastor) modeled compassionate dialogue. Both modeled genuine listening and engagement. At Eastern, the task force was appointed by the university President. Certainly, his leadership provided the opportunity (and perhaps the safety) to engage in the dialogue. The appointment of trusted leaders to the task force was also critical to our success. One in particular modeled compassionate dialogue. The idea of “trickle down leadership” seems to be a good fit when evaluating our processes. These leaders were able to create dialogue, whereas other leaders have simply dictated the policy of the church, with no engagement of the community.

     Building on leadership, another key aspect in evaluating these models was relationships with those who are LGBTQ.  The motivation to re-evaluate our understanding of scripture is informed by our relationships with others. When we know same-sex married couples, committed to one another, raising children, who seem to be blessed by God, we are challenged to evaluate our understanding of scripture. Because of our policies at Eastern, one of our limitations was actually including faculty/staff who are LGBT on the task force. Without their voices at the table, our committee discussions, and ultimately our recommendations will be under-represented by this group.

     Throughout the process, motivation to engage varied from person to person. Our data confirms that those who engaged in the process learned from it, and some even changed their position. Those who did not engage, did not learn, nor did they change their position. While “changing positions” was not the goal, becoming informed and thinking critically in an academic environment matched the culture of the university. I don’t think the answer was to require attendance, but I wish there was a way to get more people involved in the process.

     If I could make another change, it would be that we would do a pre-test survey, and then a post-test survey. We tried a pre-test questionnaire, but our approach did not work. We wanted to survey the community so that we could describe our church affiliations, and our beliefs on issues, with more accurate data . Unfortunately, our response rate was low, and our questions were muddled. (Too many cooks in the kitchen). We did a survey at the end of the period of discernment, and it was much more structured and provided excellent data. If I could, I would use that survey and go back in time in order to find out how much we have changed our opinions. The changes are likely a result of many factors, including the dialogue, societal changes, and so forth. But it would be interesting to measure those changes within our community.

     Other changes? Eastern University faces a great deal of pressure to figure out our policy on marriage, and same-sex benefits. Will we lose our accreditation? Will some (or all) of our professional programs lose their accreditations? Will our students lose federal funding? If we change our policy, will we have to leave the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities (CCCU)? And, if we have to leave the CCCU, what does that actually mean?

     Do I wish we could engage in this dialogue without these external pressures? No. While we did not choose this conflict right now, the internal and external pressures motivate our community to figure this out. Our task force is committed to due diligence in writing our report to the President. After an 8-hour meeting on a Saturday and more meetings planned, it is clear that the members of the committee care deeply for one another and for our university.

     I hope that we can find middle ground for our community. Jeff seems to have found a way to balance his need to continue his journey, while acknowledging the differences within his community. Embracing that diversity is unique. There is growing fear within our community that if we become more inclusive (and Eastern is historically more inclusive), those who hold a traditional view of marriage will be viewed as hateful. Finding a way to include all perspectives within the community requires commitment and creativity. We are working towards that goal. The decisions we make today have the potential to determine the future survival of our university.

 

Cultivating Christ in our Midst

In this age of chaos, anger, and thoughtless reaction I take great heart that there are people like Julia and Jeff who continue to cultivate Christ-like leadership within the Church and within the many institutions that represent Christ to the rest of the world.

Since my last post I am pleased to share that the Annual Conference Assembly of the Mennonite Church has chosen to remain within Mennonite Church USA. The vote to remain within MC USA was much stronger than expected, with 70% voting to remain.

Ohio Conference itself remains very conservative and maintains a very strong stance against performing same sex marriages, with immediate suspension of credentials if pastors were to perform same sex ceremonies. It remains to be seen after the dust settles, following this turbulent point in our history, if there is room for a change within our conference. 

However, the posture of intolerance towards anyone who could possibly disagree with a traditional interpretation of scripture seemed to have been humbled at this last meeting.

Our denomination, in the Spirit of Anabaptism continues to try to toe the line of being a congregationally based denomination in which the community is entrusted with its own interpretation of scripture.

The question remains, however, if the variance of interpretations warrant a review of whether we should consider ourselves a denomination centered on a common Confession of Faith, which in the past has functioned as for many as the lens by which to read scripture, while for others it is a human document unable to reflect the variety of views within our denomination.

LEARNINGS FROM THIS CONVERSATION

I think what stands out for me in this conversation is the importance of taking the time to process decisions well.

I appreciate the example Eastern & SPC have given us in allowing a process to take shape and grow without the need to control the outcome.

One thing I regret about Zion’s initial process was that it was set up against a time barrier and that it was conducted within the height of conflict.

I think by allowing the process to take on a life of its own, both Eastern and SPC allowed the spontaneity of the Spirit to move the process in a helpful and holistic way.

I think the encouragement from Julia to remember the voices of the LGBTQ communities within our congregational discernment are important for us as we move forward. I think initially, because of the heightened emotion surrounding the conversations, we as a leadership were trying to “control” the opportunities for people to say hurtful things to others.

I also value the in depth way that SPC allowed their process to grow into a longer forum in which family-like relationships were formed. This could not have happened had the church felt like they were in a hurry to move immediately.

KEY INSIGHTS: OPEN ENDED ENGAGEMENT WITHIN A COMMITTED COMMUNITY

What I have learned the most from these two institutions is the value of an open ended process which involves all along the spectrum of opinions and experiences, as well as a full engagement with scripture and tradition.

The central role scripture played in the discernment period for SPC is a great example for me in the way our congregation can take “next steps” in discerning and engaging the conversation.

I wonder however, what such a process of engagement with scripture and community would look like if one were to do it with the entire congregation, rather than simply a small group of people. Would it be possible to cultivate the trust and value of “the other” as SPC was able to do with the small group of people who met.

I think when Zion is finally at a place, emotionally, where we can engage the next steps of discernment, it would take into account the intense scripture study demonstrated by SPC, and diversity of opinion as demonstrated by Eastern.

In the meantime, I think we as a congregation, conference and denomination (if not the global Church) need to seriously evaluate how we understand being disciples of Jesus Christ, and to what extent we hold ourselves accountable to each other and to the rest of the Church.

In order for the Church Universal to engage in discerning scripture in terms of Christian faithfulness and human sexuality, we also need to recognize the degree to which we fail at being faithful in every other aspect of our lives.

CONCLUSION

It strikes me in the heart of this conversation across the global church that we as followers of Jesus Christ so often do not act like him. Perhaps we as leaders of the church can use these turbulent times to cultivate disciples of Jesus Christ who value others as Christ would value them.

In Debra Hirsch’s 2015 IVP Book Redeeming Sex: Naked Conversations on Sexuality and Spirituality she says in the introduction, “…It is never my intention to overwhelm you or even to necessarily convince you of the rightness of my theological opinion. This book is about the posture one takes, not the positions one holds… (p.17)”

While Hirsch is talking about sexuality, she is also talking about spirituality. I think as disciples of Jesus Christ, we need to remember that our posture communicates so much more to the watching world than does the values we espouse or the strong opinions we hold.

It does not matter at all to my unchurched neighbor the rightness or the wrongness of my ethical or moral views, but rather the love I am willing to show whoever I deem to be the foremost sinner.

I think the Church Universal has an opportunity to show the rest of the world that followers of Jesus are different in the way we engage conflict and disagreement with fellow believers, let alone with the rest of the world. We need to be able to show people a different way of being broken in this world, because ultimately we are all broken people. Can we together do it well, with the amazing grace, and the surpassing love of Jesus Christ our Lord?

Thank you to Jeff, Julia, and Harold Heie for engaging this important work.

 

 

 

 

 

Response to Jeff and Jessica

     Our task in this essay is to outline where we see agreement in approaches, where we have concerns, key questions avoided by the other institutions, insight gained from reading about their processes, and finally, any surprises. Thanks to Jeff and Jessica for their excellent essays. I appreciate their approaches to dialogue and am grateful to be part of this group.

     From my discipline of Communication Studies, I teach that communication competence involves three aspects: knowledge, skill, and motivation. In all three of our cases, we desire to be in good relationships, and those relationships are dependent on competent communication. I will use this model of communication competence to examine our processes.

Knowledge

     In all of our approaches, we recognized a need for additional knowledge. I was particularly impressed with Jeff’s approach in seeking knowledge, intentionally seeking out knowledge from a wide range of sources and opinions, from articles to YouTube videos. All the while, digesting the material within a community of diverse opinion. In a similar fashion, Jessica’s church helped each individual to identify his or her own preconceived assumptions about truth through a number of interesting activities. This provided an opportunity to increase self-knowledge, as well as build knowledge within the community.

     In terms of my concerns regarding their approaches, I hold both in high regard for taking such a thoughtful approach to the conversation. Each had deep knowledge of the culture of their particular community and found ways to open opportunities for dialogue within culturally-appropriate ways. We all face different internal and external pressures; I believe each congregation pressed into the difficult conversation in a way that was unique to their individual community identities. Effective communication and solutions we seek through communication must be local.  Even though we all may recognize and celebrate the universal and eternal truth of Christ, how we understand and live out that truth must occur at the level of the local community.  Figuring out “what it means” and “how to do it” is the role of the local faith community.  

     Perhaps my concern is also the insight I’ve learned from going through the process at Eastern, and now reading their stories. Neither Jeff, nor Jessica mentions that any of the key members involved are LGBT. One of the reasons we all have to build our knowledge in this area is that we are not LGBT. I remember as an undergraduate student in the mid-1980s that I sat on a faculty committee whose job was to develop the first sexual harassment policy for the university. As luck would have it, one of the members was sexually harassing me. When I asked the chair of the committee about it, he said that it was not considered sexual harassment since this faculty member was in sociology, while I was a 19-year old student in communication. Ha! This seems ridiculous now.  We know so much more about the dynamics and consequences of sexual harassment and its connections with all manifestations of power. The point of my tangent is that the one in power (male and the chair of the committee) could not begin to understand the situation from my (female and student) perspective. Without voices at our tables who represent difference in sexual orientation and gender identification, we are not able to grasp the whole story because we “do not know what we do not know” because of the limitations of our experiences and perspectives.  

Skills

     Just because one develops knowledge in communication, does not mean they will be competent in communication. One must also have the skill to engage with one another. Both congregations took care to practice the skills of engaging in dialogue. Jeff’s church practiced modeling the conversation, especially during “Family Meetings.” Jessica’s church was particularly impressive in the practice of skills, teaching and modeling how to dialogue with each other. Clearly a value of the Mennonite church community, they found strategic ways to practice engagement. Their spoken and unspoken rules focus on dialogue, not debate.

     What could we learn about developing skills? I can hear my philosophy colleague reminding me that debate has a place in our conversations. My philosophy colleague is wonderful at debate. It is never personal with him; he always focuses on the issues. We can engage in an “active debate” and still go for a beer afterwards. Debate demands that I am knowledgeable about my position and that I can support it with evidence that BOTH parties agree “counts as evidence.”  Does the scientific literature on the nature of homosexuality “count” for a given community?  Does it inform their position and offer support for it.  So, I would ask both Jessica and Jeff what was “allowed into evidence” in their efforts at discernment.  That can shape the debate a great deal.  

     In debate, I am challenged to think more critically and to understand all aspects of an argument. Debate is not about attacking one another. Contrary to media coverage of the political debates, it is not about making fun of one another. Televised political debates are entertainment, not real debates. I appreciate my colleague’s perspective and wonder if we all might include it in our process as a way to sharpen our arguments.

Motivation

     Another key aspect of communication competence is motivation. An example will help explain how motivation plays a role in competence. I have studied communication for more than 30 years (knowledge), and I have developed a large skillset to participate in communication from dialogue to debate.  Yet, at times my motivation can wane.  My marriage is important and my husband is wonderful, yet I can, despite knowledge and skills in abundance, take him for granted, not muster up the energy for a kind response or active listening.  We can take community for granted.  We can undervalue the “other” despite rational knowledge and appropriate training.  We must be motivated to connect even when it is hard, even when we assume we’ll “have tomorrow.”  

     But motivation is not just effort.  It is the “why” behind the effort.  Scripture reminds us that the heart is the greatest of deceitful things and we must be honest about why we are doing what we are doing.  What is the motivation to engage in this dialogue? I think both Jeff and Jessica correctly point to the centrality of relationships in the process. Regardless of the context, whether university or church, we see relationships as central to living well in the body of Christ.

     Recently, my co-author and I submitted a chapter for an edited book that included a discussion of the dialogue on Human Sexuality. The copy editor for the book took real issue with our discussion and make editorial comments throughout the chapter, including, “Gay-sex is a sin. No discussion needed.”  The comments were mean-spirited and inappropriate from the copy editor. In reflection, I think it was easy for the copy editor to make the comments because she doesn’t have any relationship with me or my co-author. I want to believe that it was easier to write these comments to strangers, than to friends.

     How does our motivation change when we are in relationship with people who have a different sexual orientation or gender identity? Perhaps we learn, as Justin Lee reminds us, that people are more than just sex. Perhaps we are more motivated to listen to one another when we are motivated by our love for one another.

     In Jessica’s essay, she mentions that people could only participate in the second session if they had participated in the first. Their community understood the importance of building community and trust, before pressing into difficult dialogue. Jeff doesn’t mention how they strategically included more members of the church. I suspect that people who were motivated to participate were the ones who showed up for the “Family Meetings.” I wonder how we could increase motivation to participate across a broader spectrum. I wish more faculty had participated in our events, but I am not sure how to increase participation. Required attendance does not increase motivation. But as Eastern comes to the end of our process, I am sorry that more faculty weren’t actively engaged throughout the process.

Conclusions

     What has risen for me as I’ve reviewed all three cases as summarized in the essays is that there is no one right way to process these difficult issues.  How local communities create safety, authenticity and accountability will be unique.  But the efforts to do so must be present.  I also can imagine that each of us must be willing to lose members as a result of this process and not call the process a failure.  That will hurt, but I’m not sure it can be avoided.  We must treat those who choose to leave because of we’ve become “too _____” as believers still on their journey as we all are and not judge or try to convince them to stay.  Convince them to continue to seek Christ and to be Christlike.  

     Finally, have I changed my view of either institution?  No.  I did not know them well enough before hand to form a view in need of change.  But, my view of local communities of faith has changed in that I think each institution must be as proud of its process as it is of its positions.  I am left wondering if Christianity might be more attractive to outsiders if we seemed more clearly like we were “figuring it out” rather than seeming to have “figured it out.”  

RESPECTING ONE’S CONTEXT

 

PROLOGUE TO CONFLICT FATIGUE

I write in the midst of national denominational conflict. I just returned from three days of emotionally intense denominational process from Mennonite Church USA’s Constituency Leadership Council, as a representative for Ohio Conference.

The Constituency Leadership Council has become the “Elders” or the “deacons” of the denomination. It is within this body that the denomination receives the feedback in terms of direction for our denomination.

Presently we continue to be divided in our responses toward the LGBTQ community. However, I continue to find hope and signs of God’s kingdom coming in the midst of this group. I have never before experienced such respectful and open dialogue amongst people who do not agree.

It is within the context of worship and prayer that our denomination continues to move along amidst brokenness. At the same time, tomorrow begins two days of our Annual Conference Assembly for Ohio Conference which is expected to be an intense time of conversation around tables pertaining to the future affiliation of Ohio Conference with Mennonite Church USA.

This conflict ultimately pertains to our denomination’s lack of a “stance” toward the LGBTQ community.

The denomination strongly desires to maintain relationship and community dialogue, however there are many within our denomination who do not value such a posture. There is a strong voice within Ohio Conference in particular that says that we should take a strong traditional stance against the acceptance of LGBTQ relationships.

It is from within this context that I am seriously struggling with fatigue in general, and the fatigue having to argue one way or another.

RESPECTING THE CONTEXT

I have to be honest, I am having a very difficult time speaking critically into a context and process in which I am not fully engaged. Perhaps that is one reason I have been asked to be a model of respectful conversation.

I think we live in a “bumper sticker” mentality kind of world, where we can too easily question authority or give our advice without the context of relationship, history or without the risk of accountability.

I believe that critique must always belong in the context of community and relationship.

Because of that I highly value the role relationships and community played in both processes held by Eastern University and Sammamish. I think what I highly respect from both processes was the ability to bring both sides together to do intentional and longer processed work.

Again, the beauty of both of your processes was in your ability to bring people from across the spectrum together to dialogue in order to better understand one another, which it sounds like the community became more important than the “stance.”

I find the fullest and most beautiful example within both processes was the ability for people from both “sides” of the spectrum of responses being able to maintain and grow relationship regardless of opinion and that in the end the health of the community was the highest good. And by that I mean that if one member of the body is hurting, the whole body is hurting.

I believe it is this way of being community that is a sign of God’s new covenant in Christ. If we, the Church, are to be the sign of the new covenant, God’s new people pointing toward the Kingdom of God, we have to be able to exemplify a new way of behaving. We have to be so intriguing to the watching world that they want to ask questions and hopefully be inspired to join along.

LIVING INTO INCARNATION

I think the most difficult aspect of these conversation is in that we cannot respect the context of others.

I will never fully understand our LGBTQ brothers and sisters, because I am not a part of their community. I will never fully understand my Eastern or Sammamish brothers or sisters for the same reason, but I can recognize that Christ’s gospel is incarnational and should always fully represent within its context.

I think the fullest of what we are called to do as a community of Christ is to pour ourselves out on the behalf of others, to regard ourselves and our positions as less than our own. If each person could live in such a manner we would be able to exemplify an alternative to the polarized world we live in. This is the mission we are called to.

 

 

The Harder Right

First, I want to thank Julie and Jessica for telling their stories and the stories of the ministries they help to lead. It is encouraging for me to know that I am not alone in trying to lead these hard but important conversations, and that other sisters and brothers in Christ are leaning into the same conversations with care, intentionality, and grace.

As I read both of your entries, I found myself nodding my head over and over again in agreement. Julie, I’ve admired Eastern University from afar, and while I never knew the University’s mission statement (“faith, reason and justice”), it seems to fit perfectly. One of the things I most appreciate about the conversation you all are having is the maturity of the President and the Administration to allow the hurt and concerns of students and faculty to come to the forefront and the willingness of the President to both apologize and to lean into the conversation. That to me is a sign of a great leader. I also appreciated your insights on the first event where your community came to realize that the faculty and students had a different filter for how to have this conversation. That is one of the things I’ve learned through our process as well—unless the entire body is brought in on the conversation on a regular basis with their filters, fears, and even ages taken into account, the leaders (or in your case, the faculty) can leave the rest in the dust. I appreciated how you all tried something, learned from it, and moved forward.

I also empathize with the sticky situation Eastern is in trying to balance ideologies. While our church didn’t do a formal poll, our congregants (like your donors) are a varied bunch. One fear that haunted me as a leader was what the financial backlash would be from the decision we were having to make. The challenge, of course, is that while you don’t want dollars to drive faith decisions, there is still ministry to do and it is people (and their generosity) that fund it. It sort of reminds me of the Super PAC conversations our nation is having right now—who are we (or our leaders) beholden to? I know there were multiple times people wanted us to just poll our congregation and figure out what decision we should make on these issues.

But the reality is that the harder right decision (which it sounds like Eastern is choosing to engage in)–the long, slow, listening discernment that just takes time–is always the right decision. The harder right is always the way to go, and I commend your community for taking this path.

One thing we found was that while the topic was at its anxious peaks (for example, right after our Denomination made its decisions on ordination and same gender marriage), if we waited a little bit, the anxiety would dissipate and we could have more rational, thoughtful discussions. I wonder how that is going for you and your community—if the anxiety is slowly lowering the more conversation and light is shed on it? Has the fear you so honestly talked about leveled out as the conversation has continued? I’m impressed with the amount of events you all have hosted, and the commitment of the University to have a balanced, honest conversation.

It is against my nature to criticize other people’s stories, especially when the circumstances are such that each community is just doing the best they can in the wake of anxiety and crisis. That being said, I would share your critique of not having the ability to have LGBT voices at the table when making these big decisions. I suppose in some ways this is natural—if the question to be asked is “Should a group have full communion with us?” one would assume that there are no voting representatives at the table for the decision. It reminds me a bit of James and the Jewish-Christian leaders voting for Gentile inclusion at the Council of Jerusalem. To move from a closed to a more accepting and inclusive society takes the work of the insiders predominantly. That being said, I wonder if it is hard in your system to get a fair hearing for the LGBT community when both history and conservative theology are on the side of those in structural power.

I also hear your concern on the disappointment of different groups not feeling like their perspectives mattered. In the end, it seems to me that what people need to know the most is that they are heard, valued, and have a place to stand in the community. I wonder if there is an implicit flaw in the University structure that makes it a challenge for those needs to be met perfectly. While it sounds like (and I believe) Eastern is a close knit community, it is likely different than a local church, where people live and work together for decades, not just 4 years of college, or from afar as alumni and donors. I also wonder if your community is rushing the decision a little bit. Steven Sample in his leadership book The Contrarians Guide to Leadership says,

“Never make a decision today that can reasonably be put off to tomorrow.” 

In other words, sometimes we rush decisions out of anxiety or just because we want to close a loop, rather than being willing to wait and let the conversation run its course and we discover the right answer. I wonder if after this relatively short season of conversation at Eastern, the issue has been discussed adequately. These are not really questions I can answer, but just ponderings as I hear your story.

With all that said, I am pulling for and praying for Eastern as you finish your discernment! It sounds to me like your President and community have turned a challenging situation into something our Christian world desperately needs–faithful, loving, theological dialogue on a contested cultural issue. Nice work!

 

Jessica, I also found myself nodding my head in agreement at your story as well. We operate and serve in similar communities, and the blend of congregants that range from newcomers to established locals in a more affluent area was a familiar one to me. One of the things I really appreciated about the process you and your colleague Jeff took your congregation through was the way you located the conversation in the broader Mennonite context. It seems to me that any time we can say, “This conversation is natural because our ancestors have done this before us,” it lowers people’s anxiety and puts the congregation in a hopeful, positive frame of mind. That positioning unlocks the past (our theological tradition) in order to unlock the future (our congregation’s path going forward). I thought you and Jeff located the heart of the issue—Scriptural authority and hermeneutics—and used this opportunity to teach your people some important, foundational lessons that we often assume our people understand but don’t. One of the things I learned in this process is how important it is for us as pastors to take the opportunities life and culture affords to teach simple truths. I personally came to enjoy this conversation at our church, even if it was often tense and had big stakes. I think that happened because there was a refreshing joy in talking about simple truths with faithful people. Not only that, but I know I learned a lot in the process as well. It seemed to me from hearing your story that you took away the same joyful learnings.

I also loved it when you said that you quickly figured out that your people assumed everyone was on the same page on LGBTQ issues when they were really all over the board. For me, there was such a relief in having people I trust and love (like my brothers and sisters in the local church) who can talk to me about how they see Scriptures–maybe even disagree with me–and believe they will not walk away at the end of the day. This “aha” is a huge one, and you and Jeff orchestrated it masterfully. I also appreciated the fact that you didn’t mandate a certain ideology or position, or expect people to see things as you do. As a leader, that is often very hard to do. Instead, you provided room at the table for everyone to be where they were at and make their own discoveries. That inductive type of teaching and learning is the best kind, in my opinion.

I also really appreciated how you involved the whole congregation in your conversation, and yet required people to commit to be there for both sessions. When involved in tense discussions, it is important for leaders to set the playing field and protect the players for a clean and energizing engagement. Without that setting of the table, I wonder if you would have been as effective as you were.

If I were to offer one critique it would be that there was no official decision that was made on the subject of LGBTQ inclusion. While no decision is essentially a decision (for the status quo), I wonder if this will just rear its head later on and if in fact the anxiety is still underground since there is still no official position of the church on the issue. For us, Washington State’s legalization of gay marriage forced our hand somewhat to make a decision regarding these issues. While I don’t believe Ohio has that same state law in place, I wonder down the road if (or likely, when) it does, if Zion will have to face this issue again. I suppose the same Stephen Sample quote I used before could apply here—why make a decision when none is needed to be made. In fact, if I was in your position, I may have made a similar leadership move, but I wonder if this issue is done for your church family. All that being said, I so admire the process you went through, especially the way you dealt with an anxious issue and neutralized it, all the while growing your congregation in love, grace, and truth.

Thanks to both Julie and Jessica for their faithful leadership in the body of Christ! Well done!

The Dialogue Process: Case Study of Eastern University

Leading Questions: How has Eastern University engaged LGBT issues? How were LGBT students involved in your conversations and what were the results of their involvement? What lessons have you learned as to ways for Christians to talk respectfully to one another about their disagreements? What worked well? What didn’t work at all?

     As we turn our attention this month to case studies, our questions center around community engagement with conversation regarding LGBT issues, and lessons learned on how to talk respectfully to one another when it comes to deep disagreements. Those same questions, and the bigger issue: can Christians find a way to dialogue about significant controversial issues, motivated me to participate in and reflect on the dialogue at Eastern University. I’ll start this essay with a description of Eastern and the spark that started the dialogue. Then, I’ll dive right into the questions at hand. One note as I begin. I am richly blessed with wonderful colleagues. While this case study is an informed description of the process at Eastern, it represents my observations and opinions.

     In June of 2014, the President of Eastern University, Robert Duffett, signed a petition (along with about 150 other key leaders of faith-based organizations) asking President Obama for exemption to the proposed executive order concerning federal contractors and the gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender community. Specifically, the religious leaders wanted explicit language providing for religious freedom, which would allow faith-based organizations to use their understanding of their doctrine as the basis for their policies and treatment of those identifying as homosexual.

     Perhaps unanticipated, many in the Eastern community reacted strongly to President Duffett’s support of the petition. While some agreed with Duffett, others felt that his support stood in contrast to the University’s mission of “faith, reason, and justice.” Around 1,000 Eastern community members signed a petition asking President Duffett to rescind his support of the letter to President Obama. Some of the opposition is expressed in the following comments:

I am an LGBT alumna of Eastern. When I was at Eastern, I knew several students who were LGBT and I can name a hundred ways in which knowing them enriched my experience. I did not come out while at Eastern and I was unsure at the time of what I believed about Christianity and homosexuality, but there can be no mistake that going to Eastern saved me. What I mean is this: at some point, if I had not received the rich Christian education, steeped in the classics of the faith, that Eastern provided, I would have reached a point where I had to choose between faith and the church on one hand and the realization that who I was fell outside of traditionally-accepted norms for Christians on the other. The education I received enabled me to see that Christianity is no simple thing and God has used all kinds, warts and all. It gave me the foundation I needed to continue to wrestle with my faith, rather than abandoning it.

Another Eastern community member wrote the following.

I call upon Dr. Duffet not only to rescind his name on the letter to President Obama, but that he use this incident (and the reaction to it) as an opportunity to open up an important dialogue in the Eastern University on the rights and experiences of LGBT individuals on Christian campuses such as our own. We should not use the separation of church and state as the grounds for discriminating against an entire segment of the population and do close off dialogue.

Comments from the community, letters and calls directly to the President, all reflect the difficult and potentially divisive nature of the topic. By the end of the summer, President Duffett was ready to address faculty, staff, and administration in his state-of-the-university of address.

     In his address, he faced the crisis head on. He explained that his motivation had been to protect religious freedom but admitted that the impact caused many in the community pain. He apologized for causing the pain, and explained that he was setting up a task force to engage the community on human sexuality.  In setting up the task force, Duffett tried to balance the membership with equal representation from conservative and progressive faculty, administration, and students.

How were LGBT students involved in your conversations and what were the results of their involvement?

     The President charged the Human Sexuality Task Force (HSTF) to complete a three-step process.

1) planning a dialogue process/conversation on human sexuality, 2) implementing the process/conversation, and 3) drawing implications about what EU should be and become as a Christian university based on the process/conversation.

In the first stage, a call was sent to the entire Eastern community, asking for groups (academic departments, groups, and so forth) to propose speakers for the spring, with the HSTF providing financial support to bring invited speakers to campus. In all, about 20 different departments and student groups proposed events.

     Perhaps the most meaningful for LGBT students was an event sponsored by Refuge, a student-led group supporting those who are LGBT. The event focused on, “Stories of Courage and Healing: Experiences of LGBTQ Eastern Alumni.” The keynote alum who spoke said that he was impressed with the lineup of speakers. But he also noted that he only saw one other LGBT person as an invited speaker – and that person presented a celibate lifestyle approach.

     During the question/answer time, one current student asked the speaker, “I have a friend who is gay. What do I tell him when he struggles with depression and suicidal thoughts?” I happened to know this current student (he had self-identified to me as gay, but not to his peers). I knew that through the tears of his question, he was asking the question for himself, not for “a friend.” The personal stories from alumni, and their patient and gentle answers to questions provided an opportunity for healing for students in the LGBT community.

     From the first event, we learned that students perceive “feedback” differently than faculty. A well-known evangelical speaker presented the traditional perspective of marriage, adding that homosexuality was a moral distortion, not unlike the propensity for pedophilia. During the question/answer session, the conversation was lively. Some faculty were questioning the speaker’s interpretation of scripture, asking about the acceptance of divorce, and so forth. From a faculty perspective, the event was an academic event and deserved truth-seeking critique. In survey responses after the event, the students were astonished at the “bad behavior” of faculty. They felt that faculty did not show kindness/respect toward the speaker. They felt that faculty usurped all the question/answer time, without an opportunity for students to participate.

     Based on that feedback, we adjusted the question/answer sessions. In all subsequent events, we asked for students to participate first (at least three students first), before a faculty member could chime in. This provided some balance to the power difference of student vs faculty.

     I don’t think we could have been as successful at engaging LGBT students if it had not been for Refuge. Their tireless involvement opened a better channel of communication with LGBT students, and with the HSTF.

What lessons have you learned as to ways for Christians to talk respectfully to one another about their disagreements?

     At Eastern, there is a strong emphasis on our missional tagline, “faith, reason, and justice.” According to the most recent Self-Report study, 76% of students, 93% of employees, and 100% of trustees report familiarity with the mission. “More strikingly, 665 of students have reported that Eastern’s missional tagline of “faith, reason, and justice” directly or indirectly affects their day-to-day lives” (MSACS Self-Report, 2012). Thus, the majority of the Eastern University community report that the missional tagline affects day-to-day life at Eastern.

     At the same time, Eastern is a diverse community of Christian denominations, from Quakers to Catholics, Baptists to Presbyterians, Episcopalians to Non-denominationals, all employed full-time. The diversity of faith traditions (within Christendom) is considered a strength in some ways, and a weakness in others. According to the previous president, the diversity makes it hard to find donors. Perceived as too conservative for the progressive donors, and too progressive for the conservative donors, Eastern has had to find a way to maintain a balance of ideologies.

     Learning to talk about differences in a community of diversity should be simple, right? It was anything but simple. Perhaps if the topic was less culturally relevant, it would have been easier. But in this case, fear seemed to be a common thread.

     Those who are more conservative in their perspective expressed fear. They were afraid to appear on the wrong side of human rights, and felt that the more progressive voices would  shame them. Those who were more progressive also expressed fear. They worried that expressing a progressive opinion in an evangelical organization could cost them their jobs. Students said they were afraid to speak out of fear that if their opinions were different than their professors’, their grades would suffer.

     It did not seem to matter if a person was conservative, progressive, student, faculty – all expressed fear that their perspective would cost them in some way. Of course, those who are LGBT were the most afraid to participate since the current policies at Eastern are not inclusive. The current policy is that one may identify as LGBT, but they cannot be in a romantic relationship and cannot be married. In one survey, an LGBT faculty/staff member said the following:

The worst part? For ten years, this has been an unsafe place for me to be who I am. People’s commitment to conservative doctrine often comes at the expense of people. So my perpetual fear of repercussions should I be truly myself has alienated me from people who would find me disposable should they know who I am.

How does one have a conversation when fear is a common thread? How do we engage in a conversation that is so deeply personal and divisive?

     Perhaps one of the most valuable lessons of this process is the need to build relationships. Two of the most outspoken members of our community (one progressive, one conservative), and both of whom served on the HSTF, have modeled a relationship of friendship and engagement. At a bi-annual faculty workshop, the HSTF showed a videotaped segment of the two, modelling listening, and allowing each to arrive at his or her own conclusion. While they deeply disagree with each other, they listen well and build on a relationship of trust.

What worked well? What didn’t work at all?

     In reviewing the past almost-two years of meetings, events, conversations, survey data, there are some highlights to this process. For the purposes of this essay, I will limit my focus to three, the leadership of the HSTF, the variety of events, and providing extra credit for students to attend. For the parts that did not work, I’ll also focus on three, the lack of inclusion of LGBT faculty/staff, the timing of the events, and the timing of the dialogue.

     First, the highlights of the process. Without a doubt, one of the chief reasons the dialogue process was such a success was due to the leadership of the HSTF. Faculty were selected to serve on this task force because they represented diversity of opinion, and because they were held in high regard in the community. Two students (one representing a conservative opinion, the other a progressive) also served as equal members of the Task Force. Faculty and Administration members of the Task Force specifically asked for their input at every turn.    

     The leadership provided by the HSTF to the community was greatly influenced by one of the co-chairs, a retired faculty member, well-respected by all. Her emphasis on an inclusive process and modeling it during every meeting (typical meetings lasted more than 2 hours) set the tone for the HSTF, and the community. Trickle down leadership at its best.

     Another highlight of the process was both the number and variety of events offered in just two semesters. With about three months to host events during a semester (not scheduling events during the first few and last few weeks of each semester), about 10 events were held each semester. Again, the events were sponsored and moderated by a wide variety of departments and groups. For a group to say that their opinion was not included, actually meant that they did not propose a speaker or panel during either semester. A critical motivator of the HSTF was to provide variety from the community. No one wanted it to appear that “one side” was favored over another.

     Finally, some faculty offered incentives for their students to attend events. Truthfully, I was not a proponent of offering extra credit to get students to participate. I just wanted them to come because they wanted to be involved. But like the company that offers a drawing at a company picnic, the incentives worked. We saw record student attendance at almost every event. At the forum for student discernment, one student said,

I was homeschooled my whole life. I lived in a bubble. Last semester, one of my friends dragged me to one of the events for extra credit. It changed my whole outlook. I learned so much and my perspective was changed.

Providing incentives for students to engage in the discussion was valuable. Becoming better informed, about all perspectives, fits with the mission of Christian higher education.

     Moving from the highlights, it is worth mentioning some aspects that were not as successful. What lessons did we learn from our process?

     First, because of current policies at Eastern, no faculty, staff, or administrators on the HSTF were LGBT. In one of the discernment forums, a number of students raised issues of justice. If the process is to dialogue about human sexuality, the absence of the LGBT voice cannot go unnoticed. As a result of the feedback, the HSTF surveyed current and former employees about their experiences at Eastern. While the stories gathered matter, they do not begin to substitute for actual representation and inclusion.

     Another lesson learned was the timing of events. While a few events were held during normal work hours, most were held at night. Unfortunately, that meant that many faculty were unable to participate. And when they did, it was often picking events that already represented their perspective. Holding the events at night worked best for students, for the speakers, and for reserving precious large room space. Trying to schedule the events during the day would mean competing for space, competing against other classes, and/or competing against athletic events; thus, this was not a solution either. We taped every event and uploaded the videos to the HSTF website. Not an ideal solution, but it was an effort to allow all community members to hear the speakers.

     Finally, the last lesson. At various points, each group felt that their perspective did not matter. It seemed that some believed that it was useless to share their opinions. For some, they feared that no minds would be changed. Was “changing minds” the point of the dialogue? If the rhetoric of the process turned into war rhetoric, with one side winning, the other side losing. If the process turned into counting the number of “soldiers” on each team, then the point of the dialogue was lost. Entering into conversation, with genuine care, has the possibility to change an individual. The dialogue was not about “winning souls,” it was about defining who we are as a community.

     This month, the HSTF turns its attention from the third-stage, drawing implications about what Eastern University should be and become as a Christian university based on the process/conversation, to planning the closing panel to inform the community of key ideas and perspectives that will ultimately constitute the report to the president. I look forward to adding updates later in the month that show how we completed our process.

Holding the Body Together: Case Study of Zion Mennonite Church, Ohio Conference of MC USA

BACKGROUND OF WHO ZION MENNONITE CHURCH IS

Zion Mennonite Church in Archbold, Ohio is a unique congregation, not only within its location in the rural farming community of Northwest Ohio, but for its role within Ohio Conference of Mennonite Church USA.

            In order to be in Mennonite Church USA, you must be a member of a Conference, you cannot simply be a congregation on your own within MC USA. There are roughly twenty conferences in MC USA. Conferences are responsible for holding the credentials of clergy. Ohio Conference of Mennonite Church USA, is arguably one of the most conservative conferences in Mennonite Church USA. 

            Our congregation, Zion, is just one of several Mennonite Church’s within a twenty mile radius, each church taking on a very different flavor and attitude over what it means to be Mennonite or Anabaptist. We have approximately 300 “regular attenders,” which these days means we have regular attendance of approximately 190 people.

            Zion is unique when compared to many of the other churches (not just Mennonite churches) in the area, in that many of our congregants have moved into Northwest Ohio from “outside.” While the majority of people who live in Northwest Ohio are lifelong residents, with families who go back generations, Zion has many people, mostly professionals, myself included who have moved to the area due to work in the local businesses. However, while we have many people who have moved into the community, our congregation has not really changed much in 20 years. We have people come and go, but for the most part we are a consistent body of believers.

            This has created an interesting dynamic within our congregation. While we are perceived as mostly affluent and well educated, we do have congregants who are lifelong residents, with deep ties to the community, a community that is very traditional and very conservative. However, the majority of those who find themselves in leadership within our congregation tend to be the well-educated and relatively well-traveled segment of our congregation.

            Zion would describe herself as a fiercely Anabaptist Mennonite congregation, with deep roots in the Mennonite Church and strong connections to the Mennonite Church’s institutions of higher education and because of this Zion has become known within the community and the Conference as the “Progressive/Liberal” congregation, although not everyone within the congregation would agree.

LEADERSHIP APPROACH TO DISCERNING DIRECTION

            Historically an Anabaptist form of leadership is highly communal and places great value in “the priesthood of all believers.” Zion’s leadership culture in particular has a very strong desire to make decisions as a body, and not simply have pastors speak for the entire group.

            Early on, Pastor Jeff Kauffman and myself began to recognize the extent to which the congregation wanted to make a firm decision, “taking a stand” on the wide range of issues pertaining to LGBTQ. These issue would include the whole range from whether we open our doors to simply accepting LGBTQ people in our midst, to affirming, to empowering for leadership, marrying, and ordaining.

            However, as quickly as the anxious desires to “take a stand” one way or another were coming into the office, so was our realization that people within the congregation had no idea that the congregation was not in agreement with each other. There was an interesting dynamic that was in play, where people could not fathom that others within the congregation were not in the same place as they were.

            We pastors even found that as we discussed the variety of directions and nuances of Christian Faithfulness and Human Sexuality that we were not totally in agreement. Which meant the more people insisted that we as pastoral leadership needed to take a stand and tell people where the church stood, the more we realized that we were heading towards an impossibly messy outcome.

            In truth we pastors did not want to have this conversation, because of the apparently paralyzing nature of it. However, as our conference, Ohio Conference of Mennonite Church USA became consumed by the conflict regarding the decisions of another MC USA Conference, Mountain States Mennonite Conference, and their decision to license a woman in a covenanted same-sex relationship toward ordination and the decision of Eastern Mennonite University to consider changing its hiring policy, to include those in LGBTQ relationships, it became immediately clear that conversation had to take place.

CONGREGATIONAL PROCESS: A TWO PART CONVERSATION

            First of all, our decision was to manage a congregational “conversation” in a way that modeled humility and love, in much the same way that we Anabaptist Mennonites believe that Jesus embodied selflessness as described by the Apostle Paul in Philippians 2:5-11.

            Secondly, we decided that we needed to somehow remove the “heat” of the topic and place it within the larger context of who Mennonite Church USA is, and who we as Zion Mennonite Church say we are. We also believed it was important to place the concept of the absoluteness of scriptural authority within its own context and within the context of who we as a community of believers are called to be.

            So we pastors designed our two part conversation, emphasizing the word “conversation.” The purpose of these conversations were to allow the congregation to be able to hear each other, and in particular hear where there was disagreement. We emphasized that this was not going to be a debate, there was not going to be decision making, no voting. Listening to each other was the point.

            This emphasis on not making a decision or not debating or discerning was frustrating to most people. They didn’t understand the point of meeting if we weren’t going to make a decision. Anxiety continued to grow, but we pastors strongly emphasized the need for all people to be in attendance if they wanted to be heard, which again, is a key piece of what we understand to be Anabaptist Mennonite community centered leadership.

STRUCTURE OF FIRST CONVERSATION

            The first conversation, essentially set the context of the greater conversation. We were very intentional about setting up a context within the greater vision of the MC USA as well Zion’s own priorities. We also believed that our conversation had to be set within the context of our biblical understanding of faithfulness for all.

            As people arrived we knew they were going to sit with like-minded individuals, so we let them. At the center of each table was a pile of card stock cut-outs of fruit. We then began a devotional time reading from Galatians 5:22-26. We then encouraged each person to choose a picture of a fruit from the center of the table and write which fruit of the Spirit they most wanted/needed to be evident in themselves during these conversations. They were instructed to write their choice on the fruit. We then asked them to move to tables with others who chose the same fruits on their pictures. Apples sat with apples, bananas with bananas, etc. The purpose of this was to get the congregation to sit with those they normally would not sit with.

            We then had an intentional time of community building around the tables, with simple non-threatening questions.

            After establishing the context within community and scripture we were able begin the primary purpose of the first conversation which was to slow the congregation down and help them peel back the layers of their assumptions concerning “morality,” the Bible, and how they use scripture.

            We wanted people to stop and ask the question “how do we know what we know to be true or believe to be true?” And more importantly, if it is true, why do other people claim different “truths.”  

            Each person was invited into an exercise, basically using the concept of the Wesleyan Quadrilateral. They were invited to see how we determine ethical decisions as really just a process of prioritizing sources of authority in our lives. They were given an exercise to help break down why/how we know what we know. They were asked what is the highest authority in your life (Scripture, Tradition, Reason, Experience) and how do you rank the different sources of authority? The list of every controversial issue (women in ministry, money, the poor, sabbath, war, slavery, alcohol, sex, etc.) was given to them to rank based upon their first gut reaction. For example, MONEY. Jesus would not make a very good financial advisor. In fact he says to sell everything and give it to the poor, but still people who say they have a very high view of scriptural authority somehow manage a way around Jesus’ words concerning greed. How do they get there? What sources of authority do they use to subvert Jesus’ own words in scripture? (see attachment)

            Finally, after sorting out the variety of truth sources for decision making we approached how we read, interpret, and apply the Bible. As Anabaptist Mennonites we would say that Jesus is the radical center of our faith and therefore the central lens through which we read the Bible. “If the scripture doesn’t agree, Jesus is the referee.”

            Reading scripture through Jesus is the assumed standard for MC USA and its sister institutions, but often we have found that there are people within the Mennonite Church who still practice a “flat-Bible” reading of scripture. Discussing the differences of how scripture can be read was key (and eye opening to some) in our being able to say how it is possible that two people can hold a high view of scriptural authority and come out at very different interpretations.  

STRUCTURE OF SECOND CONVERSATION

            The purpose of the first conversation was to set a tone of humility and mutual respect for the second conversation. Only after setting the stage through the first conversation we were able to approach the conversation on issues related to the LGBTQ community with a different Spirit and posture.

            That is why it was essential that people could not attend the second conversation if they were not a part of the first. We did not want people to jump into such a sensitive conversation without context of the previous conversation or without the relationships already built around the table. Which is why people were asked to sit at the same table to engage the next conversation.

            The second conversation began with visual reports of how people responded to the truth sources exercise. It quickly became obvious that we were all over the map in terms of how we weighed scripture in each circumstance. There was only one of 103 surveys returned that claimed to have a consistent use of scripture as their ultimate authority. Likewise, people were all over the map in regards to their hermeneutics.

            With that in mind we centered ourselves on Romans 12 and then we began to discuss: 1) Greatest challenge as a youth? 2) What is your first memory of dealing with the issues related to LGBTQ community? 3) What scriptures come to mind when you consider the issues related to LGBTQ community?

            We then asked each person around the table to independently fill out the boxes of the continuum from Clyde Kratz, Conference Minister of Virginia Mennonite Conference’s “Ethical Views of Homosexuality” continuum, adapted from L.R. Holben’s What Christians Think about Homosexuality: 6 Representative Views Represented by Dennis Hollinger in The Meaning of Sex. (See attachment)

            The continuum represented a range of responses from condemnation, promise of healing, costly discipleship, pastoral accommodation, affirmation, and liberation. The purpose of this exercise and the purpose of this continuum, once again was to slow the congregation down from a knee jerk response, and recognize the variety of responses one may have toward issues related to the LGBTQ community. We strongly encouraged people to not just circle a column but to individually consider the nuances.

            We then asked the congregation to consider: 1) What did you learn about yourself in filling out this form? 2) Does this reflect the degree to which you hold yourself accountable on other ethical issues? 3) Does this reflect the degree to which you seek to be held accountable to the church?

            As we compiled the results from people’s forms we pastors were somewhat surprised. We had imagined the congregation would mostly be somewhere in the center of the continuum, but the congregation was actually evenly spread along five categories, with only a couple being represented in “condemnation.”

REFLECTIONS

            If we were to take a black and white look at the continuum in terms of “conservative v. liberal” our congregation was split 50/50. This affirmed our approach to what we perceived to be an impossible way forward if we were to take a stand.

            We did not make a decision, but we strongly feel that our process was a success, simply because the anxiety within the congregation disappeared. We did lose people from not declaring a stand, but I believe the fact they left had more to do with their lack of significant relationships within the body more than their disagreement with our approach. This conversation took place two years ago and since then we have only had one flare up of anxiety surrounding our denominational convention. Without fail, those people who since this conversation have expressed anxiety over the denominational conflict, when asked, 100% of them did not participate in the two conversations. People on both ends of the spectrum have told us that it was very valuable, important and well done.

            While it may seem to some that not making a decision was not “direct enough” we feel as though directly walking into the potential for conflict and exposing the tensions around the subject dissolved the growing anxiety within the congregation. People were given a voice and they heard each other. This happened two years ago, and we feel it has freed our congregation from the conflict that we see paralyzing so many churches around us.

            Keeping it a conversation between people was a key aspect of the way we managed the conversation. We wanted dialogue not debate. For this reason we purposefully did not allow for open mic time. We did not want people to be able to make blanket statements to the entire group, without a commitment to a relationship with those who may be hurt. 

            We pastors also made the decision to not state our “positions” from the microphone. We wanted to maintain dialogue and not debate. Knowing that our congregation was divided, we did not want to give people the opportunity to interpret anything we would say through their own filters. We have been very open with anyone who wants to have conversations with us, which means they must make the initiative. We feel as though this is a model for the congregation.

            My only regret was our inability to communicate to our LGBTQ people within our congregation and community a unified message. We have always been a welcoming congregation and we continue to be, which is probably why we are “progressive” for our community and conference. But I cannot tell my dear neighbor when she asks where Zion “stands” on the issue, because we don’t. I can tell her that everyone across the spectrum in our congregation (I have talked to) says the church is for everyone. I can tell her that she and her wife are welcome at the Lord’s table, but I cannot tell her the nuances of what that means for us as a congregation or for her as a part of our body, but she is a welcomed part of our body.

            We pastors have emphasized that we are the same congregation that we have been, we just know where each other “stand.” I am proud of our congregation’s ability to delicately hold their convictions, while holding even tighter to our relationships. In the words of Palmer Becker as Anabaptist Mennonites we believe that “Jesus is the center of our faith. Community is the center of our lives. Reconciliation is the center of our work.” I believe that it is only within authentic, loving, Christ centered community that we can hold strong disagreements within the tension of an even stronger love and greater respect for each other. Praise be to God!

Family Values

Let me start by saying it is an honor to be included in this Circle, and I look forward to both sharing the story of the church I lead, Sammamish Presbyterian Church (SPC), as well as being in discussion with Julie and Jessica. I can’t wait to hear their stories and learn from them as well.

The charge given for this part of the conversation is to provide a case study regarding how the topic of homosexuality has worked its way through the local church or institution we lead. My plan in this post is to first provide a little context of the church I pastor, explain where we landed as a congregation in relation to the decisions regarding same-sex ordination and marriage, and share a few things we learned along the way.

Context

SPC is a member of the Presbyterian Church (USA) nestled in the foothills of the Cascade Mountains, a growing suburb of Seattle. The church itself has been in existence for close to 30 years and is filled with both founding members and newcomers (including many young families) across the faith experience spectrum. It’s ethos and roots are squarely evangelical, with Jesus Christ (hopefully) at the center of everything we say and do, and with a high value on the study of Scripture and the proclamation of the Gospel through word and deed. Sammamish is located in the shadow of both Microsoft and Amazon, and both the city and our church are filled with some of the brightest, fastest moving, decisive people I’ve ever met. It is a creative, inquisitive, and fun place to do ministry.

As a member of the Presbyterian Church (USA), however, we ran into a challenge a few years ago as the polity of the church changed. In 2011, the General Assembly of the PC(USA) opened up the option for governing bodies to ordain non-celibate homosexual persons to the role of Pastor, Elder and Deacon (the 3 ordained offices in our church). Fast forward a few years—in 2014, the General Assembly voted to make it possible for pastors and governing bodies in states where gay marriage was legal to perform and host gay weddings within their churches. While these decisions were open-ended–pastors, churches and governing bodies could choose to adopt these standards or not–it suddenly made a decades-long discussion in the national church a very local and immediate one—What are we, SPC, going to choose to do?

For some churches, this conversation was a slam dunk. As a pastor, I saw colleagues in my Presbytery and around the nation make speedy and somewhat easy decisions regarding these matters, as they led congregations that were mostly unanimous in their understanding and belief regarding these issues. Congregations came out as either “for” or “against”, many with very gracious postures towards the other perspective; others, not so much.

What I didn’t see, however, was what I hoped for—a position somewhere in the middle. Because while I myself landed on the more traditional side of this conversation, I had both colleagues as well as parishioners who I considered faithful to Jesus Christ, lovers and students of the Scriptures, Christian friends I would trust with my life and considered my family; and yet, saw things differently than me. As the pastor of this particular flock, I wanted us to be faithful to Jesus Christ and faithful to God’s Word, of course. But part of that faithfulness had to be being faithful to each other in the midst of it. And in a world filled with quick divorces and unfaithful relationships, I couldn’t believe that schism and splitting up from each other or even our denomination (which as a pastor I made ordination vows to and as a church we were birthed into life and supported by to this very day) was a good witness to a fractured world.

So what do we do? How do we make the biggest decision our church family would make in a generation (which in my opinion, it is) and be both faithful to God and faithful to each other?

 

Well, here is what we did.

The Decision

In early 2012, I asked the Session of SPC (what we call our Elder Board) to appoint a Denominational Study Group, to enter a season of study and conversation on the topic of homosexuality and the church, in the hopes of both keeping the Session abreast of the changing landscape of the PC(USA) and if necessary, make recommendations as to what we should do. This Study Group of 7 people (myself included) was put together by me (the Senior Pastor) and was made up of seasoned, faithful members, both women and men, of various ages and stages in life.

There were 3 criteria for being in this group, 1) They had to have done their own Scriptural study of this issue and could faithfully articulate their viewpoints. The group was purposely diverse—made up of 3 members I knew fell on the traditional side and 3 members on the more progressive side of this discussion (with me mostly in the middle); 2)They had to be pro-SPC. In other words, I wanted people in this group that weren’t just interested in the debate of theological ideas, but were interested in the health of this church family as well. They needed to have a vested interest in this body of believers and want the best for it; 3)They could play well with others. I wanted people I knew were team players, who, while they had strong convictions, had a proven track record of listening and caring for others, even in the midst of disagreement. With that in mind, the Session approved this ragtag bunch, and we started meeting in July of 2012. I thought (we all thought) we would meet for about year.

We were wrong.

For almost 3 years, this group met at least once a month, eating dinner together, getting to know each other, praying for each other, reading Scripture together, digesting articles, books, and YouTube talks from all sides of the issue together. And while we most certainly became the resident experts on the subject of homosexuality and the church, what we realized through this process was that what we REALLY became was not just experts, but family. In fact, family became an important metaphor for our group (which next to the “body of Christ” is the second most used metaphor in the Scriptures regarding the church–we aren’t called “brothers and sisters” for nothing!). And while our study and conversation was eye opening, what we came to see most of all was a new set of family values–that just as we would never think of throwing someone out of our nuclear family for a difference of opinion, we would never turn away from each other as a church family as well, just because we saw things differently on these issues. And so we met and fell more and more in love with each other as we studied and prayed on this difficult issue.

For the record, not one person in the study group had a change of conviction on homosexuality and the church. But together we did have a change of heart—we went from trying to win each other around an issue of faith and practice, to being committed to each other and loving each other like the family God believes that we are. With that in mind, we worked hard on a process to bring our congregation on board with what these family values looked like.

How did we do it?

We started by drafting a statement of Core Beliefs that were ultimately approved by the Session. These Core Beliefs began with 15 “WE BELIEVE” statements that we could agree upon and hold fast to as followers of Jesus Christ and members of the same church family.  It was a powerful reminder to us of how much we hold in common. These were then followed up by 4 “SOME OF US BELIEVE” Statements, articulating the differences we share regarding homosexuality, ordination and marriage. Compared to what we had in common, these differences seemed paltry and unimportant. At the end we included a final set of “WE BELIEVE” Statements that I will share with you here…

BUT TOGETHER WE BELIEVE in a God who is bigger than our differences and is not threatened by this conversation. WE BELIEVE in a God who knits us together as a CHRIST-CENTERED MISSION MINDED FAMILY. WE BELIEVE God has a story to tell through us in this season, through the way we love each other, the way we pursue truth mixed with grace together, and the way we bear witness to Jesus Christ.

Through all of this, as our study group educated our congregation on the various Christian perspectives regarding homosexuality, as we had open dialogues (we called them “Family Meetings”) where people could express their thoughts and convictions, as we non-anxiously modelled healthy dialogue and conversation, we saw people catch the vision that whatever the decision was to be made by the Session and the Pastors, what holds us together is bigger and more important than what tears us apart. While the issue of homosexuality and the church is an important one, it need not be a defining one; a discipleship issue at it’s core, not a salvation one.

The long and the short of it is that in April of 2015, our Session voted by an 11-6 margin to allow the possibility of both same-sex marriage within our church walls as well as a married gay person to be eligible for ordained ministry at SPC. They also passed a unanimous vote of approval for our pastors to follow their own consciences in considering whether or not to perform same-sex marriage ceremonies. None of our elder board felt the need to step down after these decisions, but in fact were convicted by the unity of Spirit we felt in our common life and mission together.

 

In a letter to our congregation, after laying out the process and decision, I said this…

Finally, if you disagree with these decisions, it doesn’t mean there isn’t a place for you at SPC. I know that for a fact, because there is a place for me.

 I’d love to tell you my story. As your pastor, I have spent more time these past 3 years studying this issue than anything else. I have prayed, scoured the Scriptures, talked to those who see things from a different perspective (as well as talking with those who don’t!), read books, thought long and hard, and prayed again. Fortunately for me, SPC is filled with faithful people who worship together, serve together, and act like a family—and yet hold different Scriptural perspectives on this issue. Because of that, SPC has been a wonderful seedbed for my own spiritual growth and discovery. I have grown immensely in my faith from having this conversation with you, and I have God and you to thank for that.

 For myself, I have decided (at this point) that I still cannot in good conscience perform same-sex marriages. While I can see the Fruit of the Spirit that is often born out of these relationships, and understand (and even agree) with many of the Scriptural understandings that can lead to blessing these relationships (I have outlined these in detail in our all-church family conversations), I am still not at a place where I can personally perform these marriages in an official manner. This has to do with my own ongoing wrestling with the different levels of Scriptural teaching and the relative newness of this discussion in my own life and in the church universal. Because of these factors and until I have resolved it for myself, I cannot in good conscience preside. Maybe someday, but not now.

 However, that is not true among all of my colleagues. While Pastor Kay holds a perspective similar to my own, Pastor Austin is in a place where he can officially bless and perform these marriages, out of his own attempt to faithfully read Scripture.

 I support his ability to preside at same-sex marriages, and support SPC’s ability to host them. Why? Because in the end, I believe that as followers of Jesus Christ, we can disagree on a good many things and still be the body of Christ and the family of faith, and that goes for this issue as well. I take Paul’s counsel in Romans 14 to heart…

 One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day as special does so to the Lord. Whoever eats meat does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God; and whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives for ourselves alone, and none of us dies for ourselves alone. If we live, we live for the Lord; and if we die, we die for the Lord. So, whether we live or die, we belong to the Lord. For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that he might be the Lord of both the dead and the living.

 In this discussion of personal piety and freedom, Paul gives us a great rule, “In essentials unity, in non-essentials liberty, in all things charity” (to quote St. Augustine). And while some will say that these issues at hand regarding homosexuality are essential to faith and life, as I have prayed, discussed, read Scripture and pondered, I don’t think this is an essential, core belief that must be adhered to for faith in the life of the church, and our Session through their vote has agreed.

 Consequently, I am comfortable being the Senior Pastor of a church that allows same sex marriage ceremonies to occur even if I personally will not perform them. How can I do that? Because at SPC, I believe we agree on the central tenets of the Gospel, and can disagree on the non-essentials, and this is a non-essential in my book.

 

Since the day we made that decision, of course we have seen some families leave (around 10% is our best guess estimate), which is to be expected with any big decision. But what has been so encouraging to me is that even those who have gone have made it a point to express their thanks for SPC and for the process itself, and didn’t burn the house down when they left. 🙂 Since then, others have come to join our church, too, specifically because of the way they saw we handled and processed this conversation as a church. Some SPC’ers have privately expressed their gratitude to me regarding the outcome, but have kindly not celebrated too loudly, being sensitive to their brothers and sisters who are struggling. Other SPC’ers have told me that while they may not agree with the decision, the process and the commitment to the family as a whole was far more important to them and they felt there is still a place for them to stand at SPC. I have never been more proud of our church—Family values at its very best.

 Lessons

 A few quick ”lessons learned” to close this entry…

  1. Engaging in LGBT issues as a church requires a long, slow road. Don’t rush it! While some in the family are wanting to fling open the doors, there are others who are afraid of what that will look like. It takes time, conversation, patience, love, more patience, and time (did I say that already? 🙂 ).
  2. When engaging in LGBT issues as a church, it is imperative to find common ground. How easy is it to let things divide us when, in reality, there is so much that unites us! We should take the lessons from Ecumenism 101 and apply them to this issue in the local church. What do we stand on together? What is our rock?
  3. When engaging in LGBT issues in the church, you must trust your conversation partners. To have these conversations requires vulnerability and trust. Neither of those things happen overnight, but if I can get to the place where I know the other loves me, hears me, disagrees with me, and loves me anyway, I am a lot closer to being a family that listens to the Spirit and works together for resolution.
  4. When engaging in LGBT issues in the church, humility is a must. In my opinion, we all need to just admit that we are at least 10% heretical. One day when we stand before a loving God, I’m convinced that none of us will have it all right—we will certainly learn a few things we got wrong! Because of that, we need to hold our interpretations somewhat loosely, be willing to listen, learn and respect the insights of others.
  5. When engaging in LGBT issues in the church, we must see “Agreeing to disagree agreeably” as an expression of living out the Gospel and as a witness to the world. We live in a world that unfortunately sees the church as fractured and unable to get along. What a witness we present when we can give ground to each other and work things out rather than rush to divorce court!
  6. Finally when engaging in LGBT issues in the church, pastors need to lead by example. Too often (and I felt this pressure, too), pastors are expected to make their theological convictions the expectation for the entire church. “Strong leadership” is equated to a puffed-up chest and a “not on my watch” sort of posture. Instead, it seems to me that the pastor’s job is to shepherd their flock to listen together to God’s Spirit through God’s Word and his people, to encourage the community to lean in towards each other in love and trust, rather than fear. This posture starts with the pastor, and we are called to model that spirit of generosity, grace, and enthusiasm with joy.

Topic #9: Case Study Conversations Regarding LGBT Issues at Christian Institutions of Higher Education and Within Churches and Denominations (March 2016)

Case Study #1: Eastern University

Contributor:

  • Julie Morgan, Communication Studies Department, Eastern University

Leading Questions: How has Eastern University engaged LGBT issues? How were LGBT students involved in your conversations and what were the results of their involvement? What lessons have you learned as to ways for Christians to talk respectfully to one another about their disagreements? What worked well? What didn’t work at all?

Case Study #2: Sammamish Presbyterian Church

Contributor:

  • Jeff Lincicome, Senior Pastor, Sammamish Presbyterian Church, Sammamish, WA

Leading Questions: How has your church engaged LGBT issues? What are the implications of the results of your engagement for the common distinction between being “welcoming” and being “affirming” of LGBT individuals? What lessons have you learned as to ways for Christians to talk respectfully to one another about their disagreements? What worked well? What didn’t work at all?

Case Study #3: Zion Mennonite Church, Ohio Mennonite Conference of Mennonite Church USA

Contributor:

Leading Questions: How has your church engaged LGBT issues? How have you navigated denominational expectations as your church has discussed LGBT issues? What are the implications of the results of your engagement for the common distinction between being “welcoming” and being “affirming” of LGBT individuals? What lessons have you learned as to ways for Christians to talk respectfully to one another about their disagreements? What worked well? What didn’t work at all?